00:01Basically, conventional wisdom shifted entirely in the other direction when it came to short-term interest rates from the Federal Reserve, Federal Reserve policy
00:08Everyone said, with the payroll report being so solid—some even calling it a blowout—the July rate cut was impossible and was completely off the table
00:18Well, we have the text from the FOMC meeting minutes from their previous meeting, which, to be clear, does not include the June payroll report because it came out after the meeting
00:28But these minutes are intended to send a message, and the minutes are taken to reflect the consensus; they do tend to incorporate new information
00:36In fact, there are a number of examples where the meeting itself and the..
00:40The press conference afterwards sounds one way and goes in only one direction, but then the meeting minutes come out afterward and are from the same exact meeting and are entirely opposite
00:53The best example of that is probably December 2018
00:59The minutes came out a couple of weeks after December 2018, the final rate hike of that cycle
01:03Suddenly, the Fed, after hiking rates and thinking they would continue, was stating, "Oh, maybe we're going to pause here." That was a famous example of the minutes not really lining up with the interpretation or the mainstream impression of the FOMC meeting because of subsequent information between when it was
01:19Held, and when the minutes were published a couple of weeks later, in August of last year, the minutes came out
01:25We'll go over that here in just a second
01:27But the point here is the minutes came out yesterday, and after everyone said the July rate hike is off the table, it's not
01:36It's actually on the table, and there's every reason to believe that it's not only a real possibility
01:39I want to say it's a majority possibility, but it's—I'll use their term—a solid possibility
01:47So, let's get into it here with the FOMC meetings
01:49By the way, I wish we didn't have to do this—to always pay attention to the Fed and to go over and parse every report, every meeting, every speech, every detail
01:55It's just—I long for the..
02:01The day when we just don't have to do that anymore
02:06But since the Federal Reserve does influence the short-term end of the yield curve, we have to at least pay attention to them from time to time, so long as they continue to do that
02:14So, here we go
02:16Let's parse some meeting minutes text, because in this case, I do think it's important, as it goes beyond just the short-term interest rates and policy rate
02:24It extends far into other matters
02:26Um, so I don't believe the payrolls are actually going to change anyone's mind, and we'll talk about what that means in just a second, especially since the rest of the labor data, I mean specifically the establishment survey, was pretty grim to begin with
02:32with
02:38And I made this point over and over ever since the payroll numbers came out a week ago
02:44There was a lot in it that was absolutely concerning
02:48And I’ll highlight those parts again just briefly, just to show you what I’m talking about here
02:54Inflation fears that are being expressed by these certain policy makers, the hawks
02:59They’re not really that hawkish
03:01Any inflation fears that they’re expressing are entirely theoretical
03:05They haven’t shown up in current C.P.I.s
03:07And if they do show up because of tariffs in future C.P.I.s, it doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s inflationary
03:14So the entire point, or the entire understanding and fear that comes from that set of policy makers is
03:22Completely theoretical, whereas employment concerns again, as we'll go over here in just a second, are not theoretical—they are happening already
03:32So, despite what Jay Powell says in public, the balance of risk is decidedly not balanced
03:39Therefore, the committee isn't actually balanced
03:41There isn't as much of a divide on the FOMC as certainly the mainstream media has made it out to be
03:47And the FOMC minutes included that part
03:50The actual minute said that a small number of supporters, or a certain number of supporters, are arguing that if the data continues to progress as they expect, they would support a rate cut here in the month of July
04:06The data they're talking about is not payrolls, and we'll go over what that is in just a minute here, too
04:12And finally, uh, finally, one last bit of housekeeping
04:15Um, bond vigilantes
04:19It's just not happening
04:24Every time long-term interest rates rise for a little while, for a couple of weeks, just a fluctuation, the media is filled with these stories about how, oh my god, this is the end of the market for the Treasury
04:29It's the end of the 40-year bond bull or whatever else they talk about
04:32Um, it's just a fluctuation
04:33They oversell it
04:34They overdo it
04:36We had a 10-year note auction yesterday, which becomes the latest example of how none of that is ever true
04:38We wish it were true
04:41We wish there were bond vigilantes
04:44The point is just because you want something to happen doesn't mean it's actually going to happen, let alone that it is actually happening
04:50And it's all related to, it goes back to everything with the FOMC and the waffling and interference in the front of the yield curve there
04:56So, let's start out with the minutes of the FOMC meeting
05:00The idea of a divide actually comes from this part of the text right here
05:04Some participants commented that they saw the risk of elevated inflation as remaining more prominent or as having diminished by less than the risk to employment
05:12That sounds like, oh my God, there's a divide here
05:14Few participants saw the risk to the labor market as becoming more predominant
05:17So, you..
05:20Got like the, uh, what is it, the Sharks and the Jets from West Side Story
05:23You got the Sharks over there talking about inflation risk and how they're more predominant
05:27You got the Jets over here talking about, oh, no, employment risks are more predominant, and they're not going to be able to come to grips with anything
05:33And so, we've got this split on the FOMC, which means basically not much is going to happen from here on out
05:39However, they say that they noticed a few signs of weakening in real activity and the labor market, and commented that conditions could weaken further in the future, especially if policy remains restrictive
05:49Policy doesn't matter; the economy doesn't care about the Fed's interest rates
05:53However, they do see..
05:55The signs of weakening are in there
05:57Whereas what's missing from this very passage, which seems to set out this dividing FOMC, is that they haven't noted any signs of actual inflation in real activity
06:08That's an important point, which we'll come back to repeatedly, because it's entirely theoretical
06:11These inflation fears stem, first of all, from the idea that tariffs are somehow going to be passed along directly to consumers and then some
06:19And second of all, from the belief that this will translate into out-of-control inflation through expectations theory, which is the most absurd thing that economists have ever come up with
06:27And economists actually know that
06:29They just don't want to say it in public
06:30So, you've got bad theory piled up on something that hasn't actually happened, isn't being observed, versus the very real risk to employment that the Federal Reserve itself has documented in its own reports
06:39I've talked about this before too with the Beige Book, which said, "We are actually seeing scattered layoffs." At first, it was scattered reports of layoffs, but now we're seeing actual layoffs, even if they aren't pervasive
06:56So, while they don't see layoffs happening in a way that suggests a full-blown recession, more than a few can see that this is actually happening
07:05There is a progression; there is material weakening
07:09This is being observed today, whereas this inflation stuff..
07:11It is entirely theoretical, so already, this isn't the Sharks and Jets; this is a bunch of theorists versus reality, and they know it too
07:20While Powell may come down as among the theorists, he has proven to be pragmatic more often than not
07:27So, after the last payroll report, everybody said, "Okay, July rate cuts are off the table
07:30The labor market is strong, resilient, solid, whatever superlative you want to use." Some even called it a blowout payroll report
07:37And just on its face, 147,000 is not a blowout by any stretch of the imagination
07:42Furthermore, even if we take it at face value, which you never should, the real important comparison here is not the month-to-month change
07:46It's whether or not..
07:51We're filling in the gap or closing the gap that was left behind from the pandemic years ago
07:55And as you can see, just here in 2025, that gap has grown bigger, not become smaller, because the payroll reports, even taken at face value, are nowhere near enough to keep up with just basic population growth, let alone trying to close the gap that's been left over from all the misguided policies back in 2020 and 2021, and the impoverishment that went on
08:16So in any real, meaningful sense, the labor market is getting further and further behind
08:20But even the more recent statistics in the establishment survey, as I pointed out and will continue to point out, hours worked—the hours index—fell by 3.10 percent in the month of June
08:26So while we..
08:31Some teachers were hired in certain state governments, but hours worked tumbled in June
08:36The average workweek is at 34.2 hours, which, as you can see here, is the weakest number for the entire 2010 Silent Depression, a period that was not actually a good time for anyone in the labor market
08:51So, hours worked, the average workweek, is down around recession levels
08:56And with hours being weak, hourly earnings—perhaps the most important component, the most important statistic in the entire establishment survey, not the headline number, not even hours—these are nominal hourly earnings
09:10Not only did they decline in June, but they also declined in June for the second time in three months
09:17It means that the three-month change in average hourly earnings was fractionally negative
09:21And while a fractionally negative change doesn't sound like a big deal, it is almost never negative
09:27In fact, it's almost never even close to negative
09:29We're talking about average hourly earnings
09:33For them to decline because our earnings were so weak, because employment was not strong and not solid, is incredibly rare
09:38And this is something that we need to pay attention to
09:42This is what should have been the headline across the financial media, not the solid headline payroll report
09:47This is what everybody should have been talking about, not everything else
09:50You could see on only a handful of occasions over the last..
09:56For 30 years, we have seen a negative three-month change in average earnings and average weekly earnings, which is just where all this begins because it corresponds very strongly with the spending problems that we do see
10:11Again, the point here is that the FOMC, the parts of the FOMC that say inflation is entirely theoretical
10:18Whereas the other faction of the FOMC, assuming it is actually a faction, is really not
10:22The other side of the FOMC, talking about worries over weakness in the labor market, that's not a theory; it's being observed
10:28You can see in this case and several others that I don't have time to go over here, an unusual degree of weakness
10:34When you see this unusual level of weakness in..
10:38Paychecks, workers' paychecks — that's something that pay attention to, that's something that goes right to the top of the list of economic considerations
10:46And this is also a data series that the FOMC takes seriously
10:50They do watch the establishment survey, not just the headlines
10:54So, this is something that will make a difference in the discussions and deliberations as well
11:00And then we get into the household survey side, which is another matter entirely
11:04Basically, while the unemployment rate looks good, and while Jay Powell may talk about how the unemployment rate seems to make the labor market appear to be solid, the truth — he knows the truth, too
11:16So do the rest of..
11:21Them
11:25Uh, employment absolutely crashed over the last couple of months, and I've gone over this a couple of times recently, so I'm not going to belabor the point, but the only reason the unemployment rate didn't skyrocket is because three-quarters of a million Americans dropped out of the labor force because they can't find work
11:30So even the unemployment rate that otherwise looks pretty good is not pretty good
11:36And again, this is something that the FOMC is going to be very aware of, too
11:41The unemployment rate fell for the absolute worst possible reasons
11:43The adjusted unemployment rate, when you start to take into account some of these labor force dropouts over the last couple of years, is now about a million and a half
11:52That The unemployment rate, the official tally of unemployment, should be closer to 5% and rising, not stuck around 4.1 or 4.2%
12:03So again, the point here is that weakness in the economy and the labor market is real
12:07It's happening
12:11We can debate about what it means or how much of a worry it is, but it is there and happening, unlike, as we'll see, the inflation data
12:15And it has gotten into consumer spending
12:17It absolutely has, which is the thing that the FOMC, and really economists and the financial media, should be waiting for because all along they've said, as we've seen more and more concerning developments come up in the economy—well, at least consumers are spending
12:31Once consumers keep..
12:33Spending, everything will work out just fine
12:35And as we entered 2025, suddenly we see consumers are not spending in the way they had before
12:40And they're doing so in such an obvious way, it becomes visible on all the data and charts
12:45Again, this is something the FOMC knows
12:46It's not theoretical
12:48It's something we can observe
12:49And like the decline in average weekly earnings from the BLS and the labor data, the establishment survey, we have a five-month decline in real personal consumption expenditures, which is almost as rare—it only happened once in the entirety of the 2010s as well
13:04So, we have unusual levels of weakness in the household survey
13:09We also see unusual levels of decline in average
13:12Weekly earnings
13:14We've seen unusual weakness and contraction over a prolonged five-month period in personal spending
13:19The weakness in the real economy is not theoretical; it's real
13:24It's happening
13:26In fact, we just, you know, we talked about this yesterday in our YouTube video
13:29Um, Amazon Prime, the fact that Amazon felt that Prime Day needed to be extended to four days is already an indication that things are not going well in the consumer economy, and they know it
13:39And then we've gotten reports that the first day of Prime Day sales, even though it was extended, therefore we don't expect it to have the same level of sales as before, you know, a consultant came out and said, "Well, we see..." Amazon sales down 41%
13:50I don't think they're probably down that much, and Amazon did come out and dispute it
13:54But the fact that it even came up at all is emblematic, like the Prime Day going to four days, that it's representative of a consumer economy that has clearly shifted
14:05Again, we can argue about what that means moving forward, or we can debate about the interpretation of how serious it is
14:12But for the context of our discussion here, the upcoming FOMC meeting at the end of July, weakness in the economy is not theoretical
14:20Not only is it observable, but it is observable in a way that we rarely see in these major, mainstream economic accounts
14:27Now, as far as the other side of..
14:34Things, on the inflation side, um, even that has diminished, as we see here in the text from the FOMC minutes
14:41Members agreed that it was appropriate to acknowledge in the post-meeting statement, which we're talking about here, the minutes, that uncertainty about the economic outlook had diminished but remained elevated, and the committee was attentive to the risks on both sides of its dual mandate
14:55They're also discussing the lack of employment risk here, too
14:56But the assessment that uncertainty had declined reflected, in part, a reduction in the expected level of tariffs, which appeared to peak in April and had subsequently declined
15:06In other words, if the theoretical fears over inflation are based largely in the..
15:11Part on the expectation that tariffs are going to be enormous and therefore filter their way through the supply chain up to consumers
15:17The fact that they're not going to be as exorbitant as first thought a couple of months ago is indeed an acknowledgment that the theoretical worries about inflation were overstated to begin with
15:31So, even that side of it, the theory, the first step that's supposed to lead to this theoretical increase and maybe a potential resurgence in inflation risk and consumer price risk, that hasn't materialized already
15:40So the theory doesn't even have the first part of it observed, which is that consumer tariff prices themselves are not going to be as bad as people initially thought
15:50Thinking a couple of months ago, that risk has already come down to begin with
15:55So, what that does is it opens the door for what I think is the Federal Reserve's most optimal choice here
15:58This is why I really believe the July rate cut is on the table
16:03There are a couple of other reasons, including that we're just repeating last summer
16:08But the main reason is that if the CPI, the next CPI—which is the most important economic statistic we have to deal with in July—that is left on the table, aside from retail sales, but really the CPI, if it comes in tame again, what that will mean is that all those who are still worried about inflation, even though they have no reason to be worried, will be able to..
16:27Say, "Well, we're more confident about consumer prices
16:29We don't see the pressures, therefore, that has taken some of the urgency and some of the fears off the inflation side
16:37On the other hand, because they can point to the June employment data and say the headline payroll number was solid and strong, what they can do now is say we're not really worried about the economy
16:48We're more confident about inflation
16:50Therefore, we're going to cut rates in July just out of an abundance of caution, which is basically what they were going to do last July before they talked themselves out of it
16:58They have an open pathway if the CPI agrees to say, well, they won't say it publicly, that they're worried about it." Employment, but they really are worried about employment, as we'll see in just a second
17:10So, while they're worried about employment, they can play down the risks to the economy while playing up the confidence over inflation, which allows them to sell a July rate cut as an insurance cut
17:18We're not— we're just doing this out of an abundance of caution because there might be some risk to the labor market
17:27We don't see an inflation risk, so we're just going to cut rates anyway, just in case
17:30So, it's actually the best case for the FOMC, and they're basically stating it here
17:38The reason is because there absolutely is no inflation risk
17:40It's just not there
17:42If anything, the tariffs are proving that
17:44Consumer prices are not being passed up
17:46They're not being passed along in the supply chain
17:47I mean, just look at Chinese deflation, producer price deflation, which is a separate topic
17:52I wrote about that in the deep dive analysis, but uh, Chinese deflation, consumer prices, they're as tame as they've ever been—tamer now than they've been at almost any point over the last several years after the phase shift
18:03There is no inflation risk, and there hasn't been inflation risk since 2022
18:08It's all theoretical
18:14And what we've seen of consumer prices here over the last three months actually corroborates and corresponds with the concerning economic data that I just went through, especially on uh, average weekly..
18:19Earnings as well as spending, weak spending, weak consumer prices, it's all right there
18:24So again, the theory which is losing steam and losing any validity, whereas the observations and weakness in the economy, including from consumer prices, continue to build up
18:34And by the way, I mean, the swap market told us there was, I mean, inflation risk was over several years ago to begin with
18:40Um, swap spreads have only gotten more and more compressed
18:44So, whatever the FOMC, even if tariffs did suddenly start to hit consumer prices over the months ahead, the swap market, the bond market, the rates markets have all indicated that it's not actually inflation risk, whatever the FOMC might interpret from them in the short run
18:59Of course, this leads—I mean, this has been going on for the last couple of years—that leads into the economic weakness that we're seeing here
19:05All of it is consistent with what the swap market has been pricing over the last couple of years, which is one of the things that we're going to go over tonight on Eurodollar University's webinar
19:15I want to mention that one more time before we continue here
19:18We're having an anniversary sale and webinar that has a lot to do with going over the swap market, its background, why we should pay close attention to it, and what it is actually indicating about where we are today
19:31What is it actually saying about where we're going to be heading forward from here? There's still some time to sign up
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19:44It'll be tonight at 6 o'clock Eastern Time
19:48Like I said, there's a lot of important stuff happening in the swap market
19:51This webinar actually builds on the last one we did three months ago, just before the April chaos
19:56There's a lot of information there that is certainly misunderstood by most mainstream considerations
20:02So, there's a lot to cover, and it's going to be a pretty extended webinar tonight
20:07We've got a lot to get into
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20:12Let's get back to the FOMC
20:15As much as I hate to do this, we've got to get back to the FOMC
20:19The divide that the media talks about, saying the FOMC is divided and it may seem like they're divided, maybe they want you to think they're divided, but they're really not
20:29There's not much of a divide as it appears to be, which is again one reason why I think the July meeting is still open for a rate cut
20:35I still believe there's a better chance of a rate cut than no rate cut because I think they want to cut rates, but they want to have the right reasons to do so
20:41As I mentioned, the insurance cut would give them that opportunity
20:48And in the text of the FOMC minutes itself, most participants assessed that some reduction is appropriate
20:54In the target range for federal funds this year would be appropriate, noting that upward pressure on inflation from tariffs may be temporary or modest, which is exactly the worst case
21:03And that medium- and longer-term inflation expectations have remained well anchored, which doesn't matter because inflation expectations play no role in actual inflation
21:12Or that some weakening of economic activity and labor market conditions could occur because it's already occurring
21:16In other words, the FOMC, even those who are afraid of consumer prices, what they call inflation, they acknowledge that it's not really a big possibility
21:21It's not a huge possibility
21:26They don't know
21:30They're not willing to… I say for sure that it's a zero possibility or a very low possibility, but they're at least admitting here, and doing so in the text, by saying that look, we're probably going to cut rates at some point this year
21:42We just want to make sure that we're absolutely certain before we do so
21:45So, absolutely certain over a theory that isn't panning out versus economic weakness that can be observed already
21:54So even right there, the FOMC is saying the risks are not actually balanced
21:59They're just taking the point that they're not really sure when they're going to move again
22:04But as the minutes also say, a couple of participants did note that if the data does evolve in line with their projections..
22:12Expectations, and this is the dovish side of things
22:14So, they're really talking about labor market troubles, which we saw a lot of in the June payroll report
22:20Regardless of the headline, they would be open to reconsidering a reduction in the target range for the policy rate as soon as the next meeting, which you'll note is the one here in July
22:31The fact that this part is in the text is very reminiscent of last July
22:36And while you might say, well, it's just a couple of participants, it's not the majority, the vast majority of the FOMC is just a bunch of empty suits who will do basically what they're told anyway
22:47While they spout opinions all over the financial media, it's really the most
22:51Influential members of the FOMC that will move the FOMC, and the influential members of the FOMC are likely the two, more than two, that we're talking about
22:59It's not just Waller and Bowman
23:01Um, but the fact that this is in the FOMC meeting minutes shows you that they are preparing for a rate cut, assuming that what they talk about here and the data evolve, particularly the CPI
23:14No surprises in the CPI, and they will give themselves the excuses to do what I said, which is to undertake the insurance cut
23:21And the other reason I think that the July rate cut is likely is because of the experience last year
23:24So, if you go to last summer, last July's meeting, the FOMC did not cut
23:29If you remember, they were somewhat hawkish
23:31They had been more hawkish
23:33In the springtime, saying sticky inflation, sticky inflation
23:38Again, you can tell they have no idea where inflation comes from, what it is, because they're always wrong about it
23:42Sticky inflation, sticky inflation
23:44We're not going to— I mean, it got to the point where, in May and June, they were talking about not having any rate cuts at all in last year
23:49As I pointed out previously, and I think during the FOMC meeting a couple of weeks ago, three weeks ago, the dots from last June showed that the FOMC was expecting almost no rate cuts in the second half of 2024 and that there would be a 100 basis points of rate cuts in 2025
24:07Well, the 100 basis points of rate cuts happen in 2024, which means that they're already..
24:12Behind the curve
24:17Their estimates are already way too high to begin with, and their experience last year is definitely something they're going to consider this year
24:22Last year, when we reached the July meeting, with uncertainty or more observable weakness in the labor market, unemployment, and everything else happening throughout July, they still came across as relatively hawkish
24:34They voted not to cut rates at the end of July
24:36Of course, the carry trade breakout was a couple of days late
24:39In fact, it was already happening as they were meeting
24:42They didn't know that back then
24:46But essentially, they came off as relatively hawkish in July only to come to regret it
24:49Regretted it within a few days, and then when the meeting minutes came out in the middle of August, after the carry trade had already broken out, suddenly, after not really discussing rate cuts following the July meeting, they came across as hawkish during Powell's press conference
25:03Just a couple of weeks later, we get this passage in the meeting minutes which says, "Oh, we would have voted for a rate cut if one was available." Well, one is always available
25:13So, in other words, even in the meeting minutes that came out three weeks after the July meeting last year, they were expressing regrets that they didn't act at least preemptively, given what happened afterward, and considering the balance of risks, which were not in favor of inflation
25:27It was still theoretical and there were observable weaknesses all across the economy
25:32So last year's experience is fresh in their minds this year, which accounts for, I think, one of the reasons why
25:38We saw in the passage where they made an explicit point of saying that some members are going to support a rate cut already at the July meeting, and as I said, the June payroll report will not change their minds because the details showed explicitly unusual degrees of weakness, where the FOMC really takes focus and attention
25:58Just like last year, several members observed that they would have cut rates
26:03So, it's the same thing we're seeing in the June 2025 or the July 2025 minutes
26:10In the June and July 2024 minutes, they’re basically one meeting ahead of where they were last year because they think they want to avoid the same experience
26:19So, the FOMC is not as divided as they appear
26:21The balance of risks, they’re not as they seem to be
26:23It’s theory versus reality
26:25So, the July meeting, I believe, is live
26:28Just one final point, like I mentioned at the beginning, the bond vigilantes, interest rates—the reason that long-term interest rates continue to move back and forth up and down but do not really go anywhere—is simply the market trying to price, not just Treasury debt or Treasury supply or inflation risk
26:48It’s exactly what we’re talking about here, trying to navigate the..
26:49Uncertainty of getting into the minds of empty-suited bureaucrats
26:53So, you know, when it looks like the FOMC might take in a data point like the June payroll and say that, well, that's going to be strong, therefore there's no way the Fed's going to cut rates in July
27:04Long-term rates are going to go up because there's more uncertainty over the timing, not the destination, but the timing of the future path of short-term rates
27:12We wish the Fed didn't have that ability to influence short-term rates, but they do
27:17So, that's the world we live in, not the one we want
27:18So, while we keep hearing every time we have these fluctuations where long-term rates go up, the media jumps on it as, oh, here we come with bond
27:25Vigilantism, it's never ever true
27:32I, we've heard how many times over the last several years that Treasury debt is somehow going to break the Treasury market, and they always highlight these what are claimed to be poor auctions
27:39I challenge anybody out there to look at this data and show me where there's a poor auction in any of it
27:45In fact, when you look at some of the other auctions like the two-year, it's very clear what's happening here
27:47It's not bond vigilantism
27:50It's all about pricing
27:52It's not about fears over debt
27:55It's about the fundamentals that go into pricing
27:57There's a direct relationship between the bids at the two-year auction and the yield on the two-year auction, which again makes sense, not..
28:03Bond vigilantism
28:10So, just to point that out as a final point here, because as the FOMC continues to get more and more out of the way, if they do follow through with a July rate cut, it almost doesn't matter because they're going to cut by September anyway
28:17Like I said, the swap market in particular has indicated that the destination has never been in doubt, or really hasn't been in doubt over the last couple of years, going back to 2023
28:28Not coincidentally, in the aftermath of the banking crisis, the swap market continued to price increasingly confidently that the goal was to keep short-term interest rates low and overall interest rates low, with expectations that rates would go much lower and stay there for a long time
28:35Longer
28:43And everything that has happened has fallen in place with that, including what the FOMC is doing
28:51Even if they can't do it all in a straight line, we don't expect them to, and even if they're waffling along the way, accounting for the variation in long-term interest rates over these short-term periods
29:01So, the takeaways here for today, July, I believe, are not only lies, I think the FOMC minutes were intended to send the message that there's a good possibility— I don't know how good of a possibility— there is a very decent possibility that there will be a rate cut in July, and that it's the economy that will eventually determine that, not the last payroll report
29:21Because the last payroll report, like I'll keep..
29:23Pointing out, lots of grim statistics and observable confirmation
29:26Weakness is real
29:29Again, we could debate about how weak it is and what that means moving forward, but it's there
29:33It's observable and it is already unusual
29:37Whereas the CPI, this inflation idea, is entirely theoretical, with zero evidence of that anywhere, including the marketplace
29:43So, I think that opens the door for an insurance cut, which is exactly what the Fed would like to do in light of everything I just said, as well as last year's experience
29:51So, while I look forward to the day when we don't care about what the FOMC does, in fact, we don't even know who the chairman is or any of the policymakers, that may be a ways down the road
30:01Meanwhile, as I said, the swap market has indicated the target, and there's a lot of discussion and volatility in how we get there
30:07Um, and it's not insignificant
30:14So, this is one of those milestones or waypoints on the road to that goal
30:21Um, one last thing I didn't include here because I didn't want to spend too much time on it — I mean, I did a video on this a couple of days ago too
30:28Even the Federal Reserve Bank of New York issued a statement where they said, "We looked at forward rate markets and we can't discount the possibility that we might see zero interest rate policy out of the Fed over the medium-term horizon." And of course, they're downplaying the risks and only calculating..
30:40Based on forward markets, but even the Fed realizes there's something going on here
30:44If only they would see beyond their ridiculous theories
30:48But that's going to do it here for me
30:52That's enough for today
30:56Let me get this off my screen, if I can
30:58There we go
31:01Thank you, everybody, for joining me this afternoon
31:03We'll see you very soon—especially if you can join me in the webinar tonight
31:09There's a link in the description to sign up
31:10I really do hope to see you there because there's a lot to go over
31:13Everyone, have a great afternoon.